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allisterfiend?
Posts : 7 Join date : 2010-08-19
| Subject: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:03 pm | |
| hello all. let's have a good old fashioned DEBATE. the tables are turned, tho - because I'm now a believer. There is a God, and this I am certain. I can prove any atheist wrong. just test me. |
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JooX Mudkipz leikz U!
Posts : 248 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 47 Location : Your moms room
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:17 pm | |
| I'll just 'Copy Pasta' all your old stuff from Bustedarsecabi then? |
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Monty All of your Mudkip are belong to us!
Posts : 149 Join date : 2010-08-12 Location : Perth, Australia
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:10 pm | |
| If you have proof, what is the point of faith Allister?
How can god's omniscience and man's free will coexist in the universe? If man does not have free will, god can be omniscient. If man does have free will, god deliberately curtailed the extent of his own knowledge to the extent that man's actions are unknowable. Sin is therefore a result of god's ignorance and man's willfullness combined.
You might as well toss a deck of cards into the air, tell them to worship you or else, then eternally damn all the ones that landed face down and refused to roll over on your "request".
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Heero Valentine Administrator
Posts : 640 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 32 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:12 pm | |
| - allisterfiend? wrote:
- hello all.
let's have a good old fashioned DEBATE.
the tables are turned, tho - because I'm now a believer.
There is a God, and this I am certain. I can prove any atheist wrong. just test me.
You do know that, that is the number one most pointless debate out there? |
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MCMXCII McRomanMcNumerals
Posts : 435 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : Stockholm
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:46 pm | |
| Prove my atheism wrong, bitch. I dare you! |
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Denial Cabi
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : North Dimwit Junction
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| - allisterfiend? wrote:
- hello all.
let's have a good old fashioned DEBATE.
the tables are turned, tho - because I'm now a believer.
There is a God, and this I am certain. I can prove any atheist wrong. just test me.
Problem is most religious people wouldn't know the difference between verifiable fact and dogma, and then get offended when someone tries to inform them of the difference. Religion is a theory for what is not know. Anyone successful at building a human from a single rib bone yet? Yeah, the scrutiny of science over the past 150 years is quickly disassembling the political structure created thousands of years ago know as the bible. |
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JooX Mudkipz leikz U!
Posts : 248 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 47 Location : Your moms room
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:04 pm | |
| My god can kick your gods ARSE!
My god is Beer. |
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MCMXCII McRomanMcNumerals
Posts : 435 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : Stockholm
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:45 pm | |
| Crom laughs at your Four Winds! |
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Denial Cabi
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : North Dimwit Junction
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:49 pm | |
| - JooX wrote:
- My god can kick your gods ARSE!
My god is Beer. lol, ya know your thoughts have been shared by many through the eons. The Sumerian people had a goddess called Ninkasi...the goddess of beer. You faith is worthy of practice, imo. |
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Denial Cabi
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : North Dimwit Junction
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:51 pm | |
| - MCMXCII wrote:
- Crom laughs at your Four Winds!
I'd buy the pay for view of Crom vs The Noodly Appendage. |
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Flying Dagda "Spesiual" MacModerator
Posts : 74 Join date : 2010-08-03 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:57 pm | |
| Allah is cool, he taught me how to make the bomb |
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Denial Cabi
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : North Dimwit Junction
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| - Seamus wrote:
- Allah is cool, he taught me how to make the bomb
Come on man, everybody knows the IRA is better at that shit than the islamofascists. |
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Flying Dagda "Spesiual" MacModerator
Posts : 74 Join date : 2010-08-03 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:05 pm | |
| Did you know that it was indeed Michael Collins who originally thought of suicide bombers? |
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freestyler_3 VIP
Posts : 376 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:10 pm | |
| Seriously, you are a |
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Denial Cabi
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : North Dimwit Junction
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:11 pm | |
| - Seamus wrote:
- Did you know that it was indeed Michael Collins who originally thought of suicide bombers?
No, but he must of sucked at the suicide part of it if he didn't die. |
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Flying Dagda "Spesiual" MacModerator
Posts : 74 Join date : 2010-08-03 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:16 pm | |
| lol, well not that he or any other Irish man did. But he was the first one to tell them to do it if their bombs didn't detonate. Allah is still a cool enough fellow though. |
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Pluh5000
Posts : 40 Join date : 2010-08-05 Age : 32 Location : middle of nowhere, Virginia
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:47 pm | |
| I like dead babies..... between two slices of bread. |
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GamingGoddess
Posts : 154 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : New York, NY
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:36 pm | |
| My god is good my god is right he'll give me what I need tonight |
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TGD_02
Posts : 234 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : Land of 10,000 fakes.
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:46 pm | |
| you cant prove faith just as much as you cant prove that there is a god that being said i do believe in a higher power with no affiliation to any religion cuz people that are stuck up asswipes (on both sides) usually correlate religion with a god or a belief in a god with a religion
or something idk well since ur a believer allister both sides can argue their throats out but i really dont c how one person can just switch with a simple argument
idk i want to go outside, its such a nice fucking day |
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Denial Cabi
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : North Dimwit Junction
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:49 pm | |
| - Pluh5000 wrote:
- I like dead babies..... between two slices of bread.
Next time try it with some baby swiss, cheese always makes a sammich bettah. |
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Monty All of your Mudkip are belong to us!
Posts : 149 Join date : 2010-08-12 Location : Perth, Australia
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:20 pm | |
| my god sits in the back of the limousine my god comes in a wrapper of cellophane my god pouts on the cover of the magazine my god's a shallow little bitch trying to make the scene
I have arrived and this time you should believe the hype I listened to everyone now I know that everyone was right I'll be there for you as long as it works for me I play a game it's called insincerity
starfuckers starfuckers starfuckers, inc. starfuckers
I am every fucking thing and just a little more I sold my soul but don't you dare call me a whore and when I suck you off not a drop will go to waste it's really not so bad you know once you get past the taste, yeah (asskisser)
starfuckers starfuckers starfuckers, inc. starfuckers
all our pain how did you think we'd get by without you? you're so vain I bet you think this song is about you don't you? don't you? don't you? don't you?
now I belong I'm one of the chosen ones now I belong I'm one of the beautiful ones
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Tilly Administrator
Posts : 117 Join date : 2010-08-12 Age : 40 Location : Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:59 pm | |
| - Monty wrote:
- If you have proof, what is the point of faith Allister?
How can god's omniscience and man's free will coexist in the universe? If man does not have free will, god can be omniscient. If man does have free will, god deliberately curtailed the extent of his own knowledge to the extent that man's actions are unknowable. Sin is therefore a result of god's ignorance and man's willfullness combined.
You might as well toss a deck of cards into the air, tell them to worship you or else, then eternally damn all the ones that landed face down and refused to roll over on your "request".
One of the best aruments I've seen on religion. However, you could argue that to god, man's actions are knowable, despite free will. God could just as well be a master of time as well as space, and allows sin to happen to keep free will, but still be aware of every action and intent, leaving it to be judged in the future, or that there just is no other way to have natural order. |
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JooX Mudkipz leikz U!
Posts : 248 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 47 Location : Your moms room
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:33 pm | |
| OR... stay with me on this. Or - it's just a load of old shit. |
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freestyler_3 VIP
Posts : 376 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:41 pm | |
| Whatever you say everything can be doubted, therefor I believe in nothing and everything. I agree with everything and disagree with it at the same time, death will learn me the truth.....maybe. |
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MCMXCII McRomanMcNumerals
Posts : 435 Join date : 2010-08-02 Location : Stockholm
| Subject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:46 pm | |
| I believe what makes sense. Religion is too flawed. Not that I wouldn't WANT to believe. I think I'd be awesome to always blame everything on God's will and shit like that. Get away with almost anything, and never take responsibility for it. It's just that the idea of God is too fucked up and has too many gaps to actually be plausible.
I can't force myself to believe in stuff that doesn't make sense, no matter what. As such, I call bullshit on religion. Not to mention their geopolitical and economic agendas that are so nicely concealed behind the bullshit moralities and fictional stories. |
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